[dolphinlover]

Has anyone done this and when? Where can I find the thread?

[beckamarie]

Kaye Bailey's Pouch Reset


Surgical Weight Loss 5 Day Pouch Test


edited to add
It is not recommended for anyone less then a year out from surgery though, If you are having a hard time losing go back to the pouch rules and make sure you are doing them.

http://www.renewedreflections.com/ga...s-pouch-rules/

[A new me]

Its on here somewhere but from what Doc says its only for those that are quite a ways out. Like I think 2 years out and that are having issues. Im thinking that your too early out to do it.
Im sure others will be on soon and Doc too.

[amina6ae]

I Too Think You Are Way To Early Out To Do This!!!!

Go Back To Basics!!!!!

Journal/food Log On Here, Maybe We Can Help Out?????

Lol,

[Christy0283]

Amina, what do you mean by basics?

[beckamarie]

Taken from this link
http://www.renewedreflections.com/ga...s-pouch-rules/


The Pouch Rules

• Maintaining weight loss requires being able to keep the feeling of being “full” between meals.
• Frequently eating meals larger than 1 cup will cause weight gain over time.
• Waiting too long between meals will cause extreme hunger and likely result in overeating.
• Eating too slowly does not allow the pouch to stretch enough to reach the point where the fullness feeling develops.
• After the first year, eating heavier foods increases the duration of time that you will feel full.
• Between meal hunger feelings can be sated for 15-30 minutes by quickly drinking as much water as you can hold.
• Eating soft foods reduces the time that you feel full, causing you to feel hungry and possibly start snacking between meals.

Well, those rules don't seem that difficult to get along with, especially when you consider the fact that patients who follow the rules of the pouch have successful weigh loss progress (and those who do not follow the rules gain weight back). But knowing the rules is just half of the equation.

Learning to care for your new plumbing

• Time your meals to be no longer than�five hours apart to avoid excess hunger and resulting snacking or overeating at the next meal.
• The optimum meal consists of meat which has been very finely cut and raw or slightly cooked vegetables.
• Consume all meals within a 15 minute time period.
• Do not drink any liquids until at least 1� hours after each meal. Then, after that time, start sipping water and increase the quantities over a�three-hour period.
• After�three hours, increase the quantity of water or fluids to as much as you can comfortably handle.
• About 15 minutes before your next meal, practice “water loading”, which is drinking as much water as possible as quickly as possible. Note that water loading will not have the desired effect if you haven’t been following the previous step of drinking water during the period between meals.

Remember that the pouch rules don’t really go into effect for the first six months or so after the procedure. That’s because it’s a waste of time to practice hunger management techniques when you’re not hungry. After the healing process is over, and the hunger pains return, reach for this article again. You’ll need it.
Other tips and tricks�for successful eating and weight management

Vomit Control
Vomiting is no fun but it’s quite common during the period immediately following surgery. Here are some tips to avoid vomiting:

• Right after surgery, and until you learn the size and capacity of your pouch, sip your liquids from a one-ounce cup filled just a third of the way.
• Transition slowly from a liquid diet to blender foods or soft foods during the days immediately following surgery.
• Expect vomiting to occur after you make the transition to solid foods. This is because certain grains, rice and pasta will swell after eating and this overfills your pouch. You can help to avoid this by eating your meals from�one-ounce cups and waiting a few minutes between each cupful. Stop eating when you just start feeling full. This will leave room for the food to expand without overfilling the pouch.
• When you first transition to solid foods, avoid drinking liquids 15 minutes before your meal and up to 1� hours after your meal.
• Cut your food into very small bites. Alternate between bites of each different food item so the same food does not clump together in your pouch.
• After the first six months it becomes very important to practice water loading between meals in order to stave off the post-meal thirst that results from the salt naturally found in foods. Excessive thirst can cause nausea and vomiting.

Eat Regularly
Never skip meals; even if you’re not hungry. You need to eat three meals per day to give your body the nutrition it needs and to avoid excessive hunger pains from developing. In the beginning, one half or more of each meal should be protein, until�you can eat at least two ounces of protein at each meal.
Avoid Artificial Sweeteners
Artificial sweeteners have a tendency to cause intense hunger cravings in weight loss surgery patients.
Become Calorie Aware
About three months after your procedure is a good time to start paying attention to the number of calories in each food item that you choose to eat so that you can make sensible choices.
Remember to Exercise
Your new pouch is not the silver bullet that’s going to keep excess weight from ever coming back. You still need to exercise to burn calories, increase your metabolic rate, and to help stave off depression, which can set in easily after weight loss surgery.
Eat Sensibly
Plan each meal to include low fat protein (1/2 of the meal), low starch vegetables (1/4 of the meal) and solid fruits (1/4 of the meal). It’s important to learn which foods remain in your pouch the longest and take the longest time to digest. These are the foods that will keep you feeling full the longest between meals.
Become “OK” with the Lifestyle Changes
You are definitely different than the rest of humanity when it comes to where your food goes after it leaves your throat. Learning to live with a pouch sometimes requires you to adopt lifestyle changes that are counterintuitive. Not drinking any fluids at meal time, and then loading up on fluids between meals, may seem odd at first. But as you come to realize that food needs to remain solid in your pouch for as long as possible, and mixing fluids with solid foods reduces them to a soupy consistency, the “a-ha” light will come on.
Find Support Among Peers
Weight Loss Surgery Support Groups are an excellent way to meet with your peers and have someone to turn to when you get the urge to say “the heck with it” and throw the rules out the window.
Summary

There you go. Now you know the pouch rules and how to adhere to them. Yes, your lifestyle changes after weight loss surgery, and that can be hard to live with in the beginning.�But, anytime that you think that following the rules is too much trouble, reach for the “before” picture of you and you’ll change your mind.

[DocSanae]

My honest advice.
Go back to the basics, do not depend on programs to get back on track. That may easily throw you back into the diet/gain/diet/gain...mentality again. First, go back to the basics and try to stick to that. If you've tried to go back to the basics, and are still finding it hard to rid some of the problem-foods-for-you from your plate, then trying out programs like Kay Bailey's 5 day pouch test is an option, so long as you are a ways out, and you are in the maintenance stage, not the losing stage.
The losing stage is also the period for you to set up healthy eating habits. So, if you get off track during this stage, go back to the basics as many times as you need to. You MUST drill first and foremost into your brain and body, how to use the tool as it meant to be used. You need to cut yourself off from *this is another diet I can do* mentality, and make the use of your tool/healthy eating habits a very natural part of yourself and your daily activities. This takes a lot of practice. If you want to be a master at anything, sports, crafts, whatever, you'd know that you need to stick to the basics first to become an expert, and you always need to keep to those basics no matter how much expertise you have. It's the same with weight loss surgery. To become an expert, you need to stick to the basics always.

((((((((HUGS))))))) I'm sure you'll do well.

[dolphinlover]

I thought it was too soon too. I haven't been over carbing it, carbs scare the crap out of me. I stay at 15g per meal, per my dieticians orders. for now anyhow. I will try the water flushing this before meals though. I definitley get my water in. Thank you all.