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11-21-2008, 09:19 PM
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| | Big Loser
Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oregon
Posts: 128
Weight Statistics December 14, 2008 Start Date:
February 4th, 2009 Surgery Date:
5' 2"
Height:
241 lb Start Weight:
173 lb Current Weight:
135 lb Goal Weight:
68 lb Weight Loss:
38 lb Lb Left to Lose:
28.2157676349 % % Lost:
Body Mass Index44.0746618106 BMI Start:
31.6386576483 BMI Current:
24.6891259105 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
| Every 100 surgery's results in death??!!!!
Does anyone else find this alarming?! I know my surgeon is supposed to be excellent & her practice is a Surgery Center of Excellence. Im not sure if this figure is for my surgeon specifically, or for gastric bypass surgery in general..but Im quite surprised that one out of every 100 bypass surgerys results in death. It appears to be usually related to heart attack, pneumonia, blood clots or infection...ugh  Im thinking this may also be for people who are extremly obese. My bmi is 42.
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11-21-2008, 09:23 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Texas
Posts: 5,236
Weight Statistics I've lost/gained my whole life!!! Start Date:
Aug 1, 2007 Surgery Date:
5' 8"
Height:
280 lb Start Weight:
154 lb Current Weight:
150 lb Goal Weight:
126 lb Weight Loss:
4 lb Lb Left to Lose:
45 % % Lost:
Summer 2008 Goal Date:
Body Mass Index42.5692041522 BMI Start:
23.4130622837 BMI Current:
22.8049307958 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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in ten years, my surgeon lost one patient...and it was due to a bowel obstruction....his wife returned 2 years later to have him do her gastric bypass...I think the technology/techniques have DRASTICALLY been improved and I personally think the statistics are wrong....
and let's face it...if it's your time to go, it's not really up to you....
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11-21-2008, 11:33 PM
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| | Guru In Training
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 270
Weight Statistics
5' 6"
Height:
309 lb Start Weight:
141 lb Current Weight:
170 lb Goal Weight:
168 lb Weight Loss:
-29 lb Lb Left to Lose:
54.3689320388 % % Lost:
12/01/09 Goal Date:
Body Mass Index49.8684573003 BMI Start:
22.7555096419 BMI Current:
27.4357208448 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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My dr has only lost one patient in 8 years and she only had to record it because the patient was a month out from surgery. The patient died of something unrelated from the surgery.
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11-22-2008, 12:38 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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What is the record of YOUR surgeon? That's what you should go by.
Also, weight loss surgery is MAJOR surgery, no matter what you think. Cutting up some parts of your organs and rearranging them is a MAJOR event in any medical textbook. With ANY major surgery, there is ALWAYS a risk, and the risks aren't that low, like one in a million. You should check out the statistics specific for the last couple of years--there were close to/over 200,000 surgeries done per year the last couple of years as these are bound to be lower. The statistics for surgery related deaths should be available for these years, because of how the statistics are taken--it's deaths within short time range out of surgery, and of complications that are clearly from surgery.
Incidentally, being obese in itself puts a person into the category of high risk where anesthesia and surgery are concerned, so given those factors, I believe the surgeons are doing an exemplary job saving lives.
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11-22-2008, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: No. Los Angeles County, CA
Posts: 2,849
Weight Statistics 4.29.08 RNY Surgery Date:
5' 8"
Height:
301 lb Start Weight:
168 lb Current Weight:
170 lb Goal Weight:
133 lb Weight Loss:
-2 lb Lb Left to Lose:
44.1860465116 % % Lost:
Body Mass Index45.7618944637 BMI Start:
25.5415224913 BMI Current:
25.8455882353 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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I think the mortality (death rate) issue is the most important thing that most of us consider when thinking about WLS. It is HUGE...that whole death thing.
At my final pre-op appointment, the counselor had me read and sign all my consents/affidavits like I won't smoke or drink booze and what realistic wt. loss is, and the big one...the mortality rates.
Then she had me take a 15 question test, so I understood everything I signed.
One question was, "the mortality rate for RNY WLS is 1 in 500." I said, false...it is 1 in 200.
"No. the consent said 1 in 500."
"NOOOO...the consent said 1 in 200!"
"Prove it," said the counselor.
So I did.
She gasped, because Dr. Paya had directed them MONTHS earlier to change the consent and apparently someone didn't. I had to sign a new consent with my initials confirming the change of the statistic.
In 10 years, Dr. Paya has not lost one patient. He just wanted the stats clear.
What doc says was my bottom line...I could die in the OR, or I could die of a stroke or heart attack or kidney failure later on. Or I could survive and thrive after WLS. I guess it was my choice to make that gamble.
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"Burning out this fuse out here alone" Surgery 4.29.08
11-29-08: Down 90 lbs. Total cholesterol is under 200 for the first time in my adult life!
1.11.09: 100 lbs down! Century Club! WHOO HOO! 
7.10.09 GOL! GOL! GOLGOLGOLGOLGOL! GGGGOOOOLLL!
1.10.10 Still at goal.
2.21.12 up a bit. Back on track, I hope.
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11-22-2008, 11:32 PM
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| | Seasoned Veteran
Join Date: May 2008 Location: Just north of Iowa, not far from I-35. 2nd star on the right and straight on 'til morning!
Posts: 8,641
Weight Statistics December 13, 2007 (pre-op liquid diet started) Start Date:
December 27, 2007 Surgery Date:
5' 9"
Height:
280 lb Start Weight:
172 lb Current Weight:
184 lb Goal Weight:
108 lb Weight Loss:
-12 lb Lb Left to Lose:
38.5714285714 % % Lost:
Originally - 12/08. Actually - 8/08. Goal Date:
Body Mass Index41.3442554085 BMI Start:
25.3971854652 BMI Current:
27.1690821256 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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My surgeon showed me his stats. He's done 2800 WLS since he did the first on in the Midwest in the late '70s. He has had one patient die, about 20 years ago, of some really unlikely and exceptional circumstances. Talk it over with your surgeon. If he won't show you his stats, find another. There should be nothing hidden in this.
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11-23-2008, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: May 2007 Location: minnesota
Posts: 5,595
Weight Statistics july 21, 2007 Start Date:
august 17, 2007 Surgery Date:
5' 6"
Height:
339 lb Start Weight:
177 lb Current Weight:
160 lb Goal Weight:
162 lb Weight Loss:
17 lb Lb Left to Lose:
47.7876106195 % % Lost:
Body Mass Index54.7100550964 BMI Start:
28.5654269972 BMI Current:
25.8218549128 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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with any kind of surgery there is a chance of death...my surgeon has never had any deaths, check with your surgeon about their numbers!!
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11-23-2008, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 3,605
Weight Statistics July 10, 2007 Surgery Date:
5' 6"
Height:
271 lb Start Weight:
175 lb Current Weight:
182 lb Goal Weight:
96 lb Weight Loss:
-7 lb Lb Left to Lose:
35.4243542435 % % Lost:
Body Mass Index43.7357667585 BMI Start:
28.2426538108 BMI Current:
29.3723599633 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
| The way I see it, you could survive surgery and get hit by a bus on the way home or you could live to be 90 in a nursing home unable to move for 30 years ~ I'm with Kath - when it your time, it doesnt matter what you're doing..... Also, the mortality rate driving in our county is way high - you wouldn't have surgery if the numbers were the same, yet we get into our cars everyday.
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11-23-2008, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: upstate ny
Posts: 2,091
Weight Statistics 1/10/08, the final endeavor, I WILL SUCCEED!!! Start Date:
3/12/08 Surgery Date:
5' 3"
Height:
316 lb Start Weight:
203 lb Current Weight:
180 lb Goal Weight:
113 lb Weight Loss:
23 lb Lb Left to Lose:
35.7594936709 % % Lost:
7/09 Goal Date:
Body Mass Index55.9707734946 BMI Start:
35.9559082892 BMI Current:
31.8820861678 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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I have to ditto kath,
your time is your time...
Its not in your hands my dear friend.
But your health is!!!!!!
Continue to rearch..
Lol,
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11-23-2008, 10:58 AM
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| | Seasoned Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: AZ
Posts: 2,178
Weight Statistics January 1, 2008 Start Date:
January 11, 2008 Surgery Date:
5' 7"
Height:
339 lb Start Weight:
145 lb Current Weight:
149 lb Goal Weight:
194 lb Weight Loss:
-4 lb Lb Left to Lose:
57.2271386431 % % Lost:
July 4, 2009 FIREWORKS, BABY! Goal Date:
Body Mass Index53.0891067053 BMI Start:
22.7077300067 BMI Current:
23.3341501448 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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Yep, my surgeon was very open to the fact that he had lost one patient from a blood clot in their leg after surgery. That was why he used pressure leg cuff thingamabobs (technical term, I know!) after surgery. So check with your surgeon and find out their record AND what they have done to improve their surgery and post surgical patients lives.
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