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Old 01-21-2012, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've never seen this dealt with before on this site, but if it were, this'd be as good a forum as any for it. This isn't a question for me, but it may answer a question someone has that they haven't asked yet.

I had my 4-year checkup last Monday. The only thing that wasn't perfect was my protein level. The surgeon commented that it was on the low side of normal and asked if I was eating enough protein. Well, I "only" eat about 60-80 grams a day. He was puzzling about it and wondering if further testing might be needed when I asked him if donating plasma could affect it.

Ah-hah!! Plasma has a lot of protein in it. Yes indeed, that could do it! So he told me to up my protein, which I have done.

This morning I got a call from a nurse at the plasma center. They had done a routine quality test on my plasma and found that it was low in protein. So I am on hold with them for a few weeks while I rebuild my levels. Then I can be re-tested and if successful, they'll let me start donating again.

So I guess this is a friendly notice, not quite a warning.

If you are in the near post-op period (less than 6-8 months out), your body makes a lot of demands on your protein levels. You ought to keep it within you rather than giving it away. Only if you are healthy can you withstand the effects of plasma donations, and only by keeping all available plasma readily accessible can you heal up properly and get healthy.

Once you are at maintenance awhile and stable, you can start thinking about donating if you want. Even then, you need to be aware that every couple of months you may want to take a break from it and recharge your levels.

I've been donating for 3-4 months, twice a week. In my conversation with the nurse I mentioned that I had had RNY. She had an "Ah-hah" moment, and said that they often see this pattern with folks like us. We have unique protein needs, and must focus special attention on them.

So it'll be at least a month until I can donate again. I'll be hitting the protein heavy in that time, and then being very careful once I start back with it.

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Old 01-21-2012, 05:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info. I was wondering about that.
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As much as I respect your good intentions, IMHO, I do not think WLS post ops should do such donations. There is no data on how such depletion affects WLS post ops, with their realigned and adjusted functions and metabolism. The extra protein intake may have an effect on your liver and kidney functions as well. About 100g protein per day is the recommended upper limit for most people, and anything more could put a strain on your system.
Even if you are doing fine now, there is no knowing how such repeated stress will affect you in the long run.
Also, there may be some unknown factors with all the supplementation you need to take, that may have an effect on the recipients of the plasma.
If you feel you have to do this, then keep it to a couple of times a year.
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Thanks for the information, Perfesser and Doc. It is much appreciated.
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The plasma center doesn't list WLS as a disqualifying factor for donors, but it's possible they may have their own motives involved in that decision.

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The plasma center may not have WLS on their disqualifying list because whoever makes the decision aren't truly aware of what WLS affects in terms of nutrition and metabolism, and recovery of the donor. They may be just assuming that recovery is the same as a person with a normal system.
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This is an interesting topic. Doc, do you have the same the concerns for a regular blood donation too? I realize that plasma is part of blood, but are the concerns you have related to just the plasma donation that Perfesser references?
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You are more prone to anemia as well.
With RNY, the portion of the stomach that is vital for iron absorption is bypassed. Hence the need for iron and VB12 supplementation.
It's quite possible that your recovery time from blood donations will take longer.
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My surgeon says not to donate after wls because of concerns like Doc listed. Which is sad as i donated blood when I could. But now esp due to my iron issues I can not.
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I was also told not to donate...I did for a few times and then found out that my bloodwork said......"anemia"..well thats the end of that. Like doc says, ya never know so why risk it..
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