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07-10-2010, 04:46 PM
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| | Whipper Snapper
Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bournemouth, England
Posts: 13
Weight Statistics 1st July 2010 Start Date:
14th July 2010 Surgery Date:
5' 8"
Height:
219 lb Start Weight:
196 lb Current Weight:
154 lb Goal Weight:
23 lb Weight Loss:
42 lb Lb Left to Lose:
10.502283105 % % Lost:
1st July 2011 Goal Date:
Body Mass Index33.2951989619 BMI Start:
29.7984429066 BMI Current:
23.4130622837 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodOther
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Has anyone heard of or had the new POSE procedure?
I have been refused a band because of a hernia and oesophagitis. I spoke to my surgeon today and he detected my hesitation in the RNY procedure. As a result he cancelled my operation which had been due on Weds this week. As you can imagine I am devastated.
He has potentially offered me this new POSE procedure at some point in about 4 months...but it is so new over here.
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07-10-2010, 05:51 PM
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| | WLS Guru
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 481
Weight Statistics July 3,2008 Start Date:
March 18,2009 Surgery Date:
5' 11"
Height:
514 lb Start Weight:
256 lb Current Weight:
220 lb Goal Weight:
258 lb Weight Loss:
36 lb Lb Left to Lose:
50.1945525292 % % Lost:
Body Mass Index71.6806189248 BMI Start:
35.7008530054 BMI Current:
30.6804205515 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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I googled it and this is what I found. POSE, Incisionless Weight Loss Surgery
Link: http://www.robertorizzi.com/obesity-surgery.htm
The incisionless Weight Loss Surgery procedure, also known as POSE (Primary Obesity Surgery, Endolumenal) allows surgeons to decrease the size of the patient’s stomach without making an incision on the outside of their body.
Incisionless surgery offers several advantages over the traditional open and laparoscopic surgery including reduced risk of infection, less post-operative pain, and no visible scars. The procedure promises to reduce many of the serious complications often associated with bariatric surgery.
The incisionless procedure is performed using Incisionless Operating Platform (IOP) and a flexible endoscope. Physicians inserted the scope and the IOP through the patient's mouth. They then used the IOP tools to grasp the stomach tissue and deploy suture anchors to create multiple tissue folds in the stomach wall to reduce its size.
If the promise of the incisionless surgical procedure of reduced complications and faster recovery times holds true, incisionless surgery could significantly expand the number of patients who are able to undergo weight loss surgery
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07-10-2010, 06:08 PM
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| | Whipper Snapper
Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bournemouth, England
Posts: 13
Weight Statistics 1st July 2010 Start Date:
14th July 2010 Surgery Date:
5' 8"
Height:
219 lb Start Weight:
196 lb Current Weight:
154 lb Goal Weight:
23 lb Weight Loss:
42 lb Lb Left to Lose:
10.502283105 % % Lost:
1st July 2011 Goal Date:
Body Mass Index33.2951989619 BMI Start:
29.7984429066 BMI Current:
23.4130622837 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodOther
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Thanks John. Its surprisng how much info is on the net regarding this virtually brand new procedure...what I'm struggling to find is any information from people who have had it done! I'd really like to know how they are coping with it and if they are getting the results they wanted. I'm really concerned & have huge reservations over RnY!!
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07-10-2010, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: May 2008 Location: Just north of Iowa, not far from I-35. 2nd star on the right and straight on 'til morning!
Posts: 8,212
Weight Statistics December 13, 2007 (pre-op liquid diet started) Start Date:
December 27, 2007 Surgery Date:
5' 9"
Height:
280 lb Start Weight:
172 lb Current Weight:
184 lb Goal Weight:
108 lb Weight Loss:
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38.5714285714 % % Lost:
Originally - 12/08. Actually - 8/08. Goal Date:
Body Mass Index41.3442554085 BMI Start:
25.3971854652 BMI Current:
27.1690821256 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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At your weight, Rach, unless you have serious co-morbidities, RNY is probably a bit drastic for you. Kind of like swatting a fly with a Buick!!
Do your research and trust your doctor. He's probably been involved in more bariatric procedures than you have! 
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07-10-2010, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oklahoma City, Okla USA
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190 lb Current Weight:
175 lb Goal Weight:
165 lb Weight Loss:
15 lb Lb Left to Lose:
46.4788732394 % % Lost:
Body Mass Index59.0686390533 BMI Start:
31.6142011834 BMI Current:
29.1183431953 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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I've read a bit on this but it reads to me to basically be a 'new version of an old procedure' which is only making the stomach smaller? With NO bypass. Weren't those called VGBs? Or something like that.
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07-10-2010, 09:15 PM
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It's not VGB because VGB involves a band, but this doesn't.
It sounds like what's been called single orifice surgery in some circles, and has been experimentally done for the past few years. Basoically, the stomach is stapled though the endoscope to make it smaller. Honestly, I think it's too early yet to really tell how the results will turn out, especially long term. Also, since it makes the stomach smaller by stapleing many folds into it, the area that produces stomach acid is still intact, so I'm not sure how well it will work for GERD. You'll have to ask your surgeon for data on that, too.
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07-11-2010, 01:17 AM
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| | WLS Master Guru
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 970
Weight Statistics All of my life! Start Date:
12/01/08 Surgery Date:
5' 6"
Height:
309 lb Start Weight:
138 lb Current Weight:
170 lb Goal Weight:
171 lb Weight Loss:
-32 lb Lb Left to Lose:
55.3398058252 % % Lost:
Original 12/09 Actual 09/09 Goal Date:
Body Mass Index49.8684573003 BMI Start:
22.2713498623 BMI Current:
27.4357208448 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodRoux en Y Gastric Bypass
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I had no co-morbidities but had a BMI of 49 when I started. RNY is a tough procedure your surgeon knows best. He wants you to be ready. I have never heard of POSE but Europe always seems to up the up & coming new procedures. Ask your surgeon if he would be willing for you to beable to speak to those of his patients that have been through the procedure.
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07-11-2010, 07:27 AM
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| | Whipper Snapper
Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bournemouth, England
Posts: 13
Weight Statistics 1st July 2010 Start Date:
14th July 2010 Surgery Date:
5' 8"
Height:
219 lb Start Weight:
196 lb Current Weight:
154 lb Goal Weight:
23 lb Weight Loss:
42 lb Lb Left to Lose:
10.502283105 % % Lost:
1st July 2011 Goal Date:
Body Mass Index33.2951989619 BMI Start:
29.7984429066 BMI Current:
23.4130622837 BMI Goal:
Weight Loss MethodOther
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Thank you all. From the research I have managed to do I have seen that about 50 people have had it in the US but this is so new here only a handful of people are having it done.
Because there really is no data on this type of surgery I am concerned about spending so much money (£6000) on something which may not work...but that is me looking at the negatives....it could be the best £6000 I have ever spent ! 
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07-11-2010, 03:28 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DEPTFORD NJ
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149 lb Current Weight:
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129 lb Weight Loss:
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Body Mass Index47.7133789062 BMI Start:
25.5729980469 BMI Current:
25.7446289062 BMI Goal:
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i never heard of this procedure til today i wish you the best on your decision god bless
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09-11-2010, 04:46 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Height:
253 lb Start Weight:
232 lb Current Weight:
155 lb Goal Weight:
21 lb Weight Loss:
77 lb Lb Left to Lose:
8.30039525692 % % Lost:
Body Mass Index43.4226074219 BMI Start:
39.818359375 BMI Current:
26.6027832031 BMI Goal:
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Hi,
I was one of the first to have it in the UK with (the excellent) Mr James Byrne at spire southampton.
I have just had my first month weigh in since starting my pre op diet and have lost 21lbs in a month.
I had no pain or discomfort apart from a dry mouth and mild sore throat when i first woke up. The care i received at spire soton was excellent and the aftercare is very good.
if there is anything i can help anyone with please just ask and i will do my best to answer or find out for you.
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